The Builders, Makers, Doers Podcast

'The Bank Owned Everything': What No One Tells You About Starting a Trades Business | S1E5

Written by Andy Bassett, CIC, CPCU | Jan 13, 2026 4:06:47 PM

 

 

In this episode of Builders, Makers, Doers, Andy and Elliot sit down with Matt Christopherson, founder of a multi-entity plumbing and mechanical operation, to unpack the part of trades ownership most people never talk about. The early years.

The leverage.

The nights where one bad job can erase everything.

This isn’t a polished success story.

It’s a real conversation about what it takes to survive the moments that quietly break most trades businesses before they ever get the chance to scale.

Matt started with nothing.

Digging ditches. Six dollars an hour.  No safety net.

What followed were years of cash flow pressure, reinvesting every dollar back into the business, and learning hard lessons the only way trades owners ever do — the expensive way.

In this episode, we talk about what ownership actually feels like when:

  • The bank owns everything
  • Cash flow is tight even when revenue is growing
  • One job bid wrong can put the entire company at risk
  • Labor problems aren’t really labor problems — they’re leadership problems
  • Taking care of people becomes the difference between survival and collapse

For construction, mechanical, and specialty trades owners, this conversation goes far beyond plumbing.

It’s about what happens when responsibility, risk, and reality collide.

In Episode 5, we unpack:

  • What no one prepares you for when you start a trades business
  • Why cash flow — not profit — is the real killer early on
  • The job that nearly ended the company and the lesson it taught
  • Why reinvesting beats paying yourself too early
  • How leadership decisions quietly shape labor retention
  • Why taking care of your people is a profit protection strategy

This episode isn’t about plumbing.

It’s about ownership under pressure.

If you own — or plan to own — a trades business, this is a conversation you need to hear before the pressure finds you.

 

Chapters

00:00 – What no one tells you about starting a trades business
02:10 – From digging ditches to ownership
05:40 – Cash flow pressure in the early years
09:15 – “The bank owned everything”
13:05 – The job bid wrong that nearly ended it
18:30 – Why labor problems are leadership problems
23:45 – Taking care of people as a profit strategy
28:20 – Reinvesting vs paying yourself early
33:10 – Building a business people want to work for
38:40 – Final lessons on survival, leadership, and longevity

 

 

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